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  • Westtncat
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    Yea, I have seen both types of mods, the place Im talking about is not like this. Its a section of a larger site and its mostly political so you can imagine the conversations. I have been there over ten years and finally got out of it as its a useless waste of time. If anything the politics there have gotten more divided. I think this site runs about like it needs to.

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  • Will Lavender
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    Originally posted by Westtncat View Post
    I have been a moderator for other sites, have turned down the opportunity to be a mod many times since then. I am a terrible mod because I really don't care. I am a member of another board (not UK related) where there are a few basic rules about cursing, racist remarks etc but basically whatever you say will stand without edit. Its actually not as bad as you might think. Like I said there are basic rules so total control isn't lost but minor things are left to stand. A member can delete their own post but mods generally do not. This is great when someone acts like an idiot and you can just leave it there for the world to see. .
    It's all a matter of taste but I can't imagine running a board like this.

    One, there are all kinds of legal issues you could run into. And two, you engender a real distrust (at best) or a disgust (at worst) between factions of your membership.

    The best mods I've ever seen are those that kind of know where the line is drawn, but they mostly stay invisible. But when it's time to take action they have to take action. Just letting a post stand because it's idiotic doesn't work most of the time because those posters just keep coming back and causing more chaos. I was a member of a pretty huge writing board once and they had some incredible things go on, including an instance once where one of their common posters came to the board to announce that his wife had been murdered...and then he became a suspect.

    You can't let boards that large go unmoderated IMO or members start hating each other. You can see that happening over on the big UK boards, and it's really disappointing to watch.

    I have also seen the other side of it: mods who want to touch everything. That's worse.

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  • Will Lavender
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    Originally posted by Katmendo View Post
    In all seriousness, the surest sign that a player is.... "underwhelming", is when you have to post reminders such as this.

    Not that it's necessarily bad to emphasize these rules, but the act is an admission in and of itself when in context to its inspiration for reintroduction.
    The reminder has nothing to do with Skal. This is something that's been talked about for months and months.

    And it's really not a huge deal, at least in my mind, but when you have members complain a refresher of what we're about seems to be in order.

    But, as always, it's a fine line. We have to be able to criticize on boards like this or else nobody comes. I think though that it's important to pay attention to the tone of that criticism.

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  • Katmendo
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    In all seriousness, the surest sign that a player is.... "underwhelming", is when you have to post reminders such as this.

    Not that it's necessarily bad to emphasize these rules, but the act is an admission in and of itself when in context to its inspiration for reintroduction.

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  • Westtncat
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    I don't believe it was ISIS. I mean I don't KNOW that but seems like its not their style.

    I have been a moderator for other sites, have turned down the opportunity to be a mod many times since then. I am a terrible mod because I really don't care. I am a member of another board (not UK related) where there are a few basic rules about cursing, racist remarks etc but basically whatever you say will stand without edit. Its actually not as bad as you might think. Like I said there are basic rules so total control isn't lost but minor things are left to stand. A member can delete their own post but mods generally do not. This is great when someone acts like an idiot and you can just leave it there for the world to see.

    That being said I don't think that would work here because our post are always person related not really that much topic related. When you talk about other people you probably need to watch it a little closer. I think the mods do a good job here. I had a thread deleted the other day, I basically just shrug my shoulders and move on. Nothing here is that big of a deal.

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  • Will Lavender
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    I hate ISIS mostly because they're murdering tyrants, but I have to admit that I have a little more hate for them because of what they did to Wildcatnation.

    For the longest time I thought it couldn't have really been ISIS. Probably a weird copycat or something. But it probably was. I mean they even got Montgomery Inn in Cincinnati, those monsters.

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  • teamchemistry15
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    And just why was the OP edited, Mr. Lavender?????

    I have been a member for ten years. I have obviously noticed the decrease in members, especially after getting hacked by ISIS, but it is still the one website I get on every single day. Multiple times per day at that. I have never had any issues with the mods here and have always thought you have done a wonderful job keeping away the nonsense. I don't come here to argue, slam my keyboard, get upset, or to be degraded. I come here for good conversation about anything and everything, not just UK. That is exactly what I get here. I know from time to time we get on each other's nerves and let our emotions get the best of us. We are all human. But if someone allows our mods to run them off because they can't use their favorite four letter word or belittle student athletes they have never met I say let them go because those kind of replies bring nothing productive to the table.

    I remember the day Patrick Patterson committed and how until the 2012 championship that was the most members there were on the board at one time. We certainly have had a decline in the involvement and I have no idea why. There are rarely issues that aren't immediately solved. This is a good place for information and conversation not only about our Wildcats, but current events, politics, movies, etc. Thank you to the mods and admins for keeping this site at a premium level.
    Last edited by teamchemistry15; 12-16-2015, 07:13 PM. Reason: The mods didnt like what I had to say ;)

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  • justford
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    Yes that was her name. Thanks

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  • Will Lavender
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    Originally posted by justford View Post
    What was the ladies name that used to post on here and used
    ​all the time in her post?
    Poodoo. I believe she's been asked to come back many times.

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  • justford
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    What was the ladies name that used to post on here and used
    ​all the time in her post?

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  • samsdad
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    I'd especially like for Blue Heretic and Rainman to come back.

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  • TrueblueCATfan
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    there were a lot of good people from the old WCF...sure wish some of them would come back

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  • Downes Van Zandt
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    Originally posted by JFCats22 View Post


    I get it, to a point. I know I can be harsh and critical. But for posts to get moderated over words like "dumb" "sucks" "stupid" etc...is quite petty.

    Also, just going to say, this is the exact reason so many have left. I still communicate with a lot of the old posters on Facebook and via email and they all say the moderation just got too silly. This place used to be the best out there...it's gone downhill in a big way with all the people who have left.

    I've been part of this going back 15 years to the old WCF, it's sad watching it dwindle to just about nothing now.
    If you're still in touch with a lot of old members, see if you can get some of them to come back around. We love the members we have, but it'd be great to see the community grow.

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  • JFCats22
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    Originally posted by Will Lavender View Post

    Well, the downhill slide on WCN started years and years ago and happened for various reasons. We've been talking about dwindling membership for literally years, going back into the Tubby era. So I would disagree with you that an over-moderation is a reason for the decline. There are many reasons, probably, but I don't think the mods here are that heavy-handed.

    Nor do we really touch much of anything. We all see what's moderated as it goes through; since ISIS hacked us I can think of maybe a handful of posts that have been touched total since that time. No reason to. Most of the time we run pretty smoothly.

    But there's a difference between our mission and what the people at Rivals do. Even when WCN had a lot more members there was a difference. It's a matter of what your membership wants, and I think the members want a clean, family-oriented board. To do that you have to at least moderate a little.

    The bigger boards are hardly moderated at all. Just two weeks ago I saw a discussion on the other board that ended with two members threatening to meet each other out in a parking lot. That can be "entertaining" in a sad sort of way, but it's not what we want at WCN.

    And that's an extreme example, but it can be a slippery slope. You have to moderate a little or things could slide. We just can't put up with players being thrown under the bus*. That's not how Mel did things and that's not right on a mostly anonymous message board.

    * However, we can criticize players for their performance. But there's a line. I think most of us knows when that line's been crossed.

    Oh, I agree it's not like Rivals nor should it be. That place is a nightmare...almost ruins the legitimate/good posters that they do have

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  • Will Lavender
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    Originally posted by JFCats22 View Post


    I get it, to a point. I know I can be harsh and critical. But for posts to get moderated over words like "dumb" "sucks" "stupid" etc...is quite petty.

    Also, just going to say, this is the exact reason so many have left. I still communicate with a lot of the old posters on Facebook and via email and they all say the moderation just got too silly. This place used to be the best out there...it's gone downhill in a big way with all the people who have left.

    I've been part of this going back 15 years to the old WCF, it's sad watching it dwindle to just about nothing now.
    Well, the downhill slide on WCN started years and years ago and happened for various reasons. We've been talking about dwindling membership for literally years, going back into the Tubby era. So I would disagree with you that an over-moderation is a reason for the decline. There are many reasons, probably, but I don't think the mods here are that heavy-handed.

    Nor do we really touch much of anything. We all see what's moderated as it goes through; since ISIS hacked us I can think of maybe a handful of posts that have been touched total since that time. No reason to. Most of the time we run pretty smoothly.

    But there's a difference between our mission and what the people at Rivals do. Even when WCN had a lot more members there was a difference. It's a matter of what your membership wants, and I think the members want a clean, family-oriented board. To do that you have to at least moderate a little.

    The bigger boards are hardly moderated at all. Just two weeks ago I saw a discussion on the other board that ended with two members threatening to meet each other out in a parking lot. That can be "entertaining" in a sad sort of way, but it's not what we want at WCN.

    And that's an extreme example, but it can be a slippery slope. You have to moderate a little or things could slide. We just can't put up with players being thrown under the bus*. That's not how Mel did things and that's not right on a mostly anonymous message board.

    * However, we can criticize players for their performance. But there's a line. I think most of us knows when that line's been crossed.
    Last edited by Will Lavender; 12-16-2015, 02:46 PM.

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